Here is Jesters latest Blog

http://jestertrek.blogspot.com.au/2014/03/the-bonus-round.html

As you can probably tell it is to do with Erotica 1's bonus round.

It is a very damning blog.

I can only surmise that Jester has brought the subject up with CCP and was not happy with there response which thus led him to create this blog. (Many apologise if I am wrong)

I would be very interested to hear what the community at large thinks and perhaps for Erotica and friends to refute the claims being made that they actually enjoy the pain and humiliation that they cause, especially to the man in the recording linked in Jesters Blog.

Bit too late buddy.

Should have apologized on page 1. Maybe would have avoided the permaban.

Certainly would have avoided my humble efforts to spread the story far and wide, and reporting this to law enforcement, as I should....

You mean whats criminal about coercing a person and his wife, by means of applying duress (by withholding propeety which is not even yours) into 2hrs of non-concensually recorded harrasment, humiliation, degrading and abuse, on false pretences?

And that these "Bonus Room" situatiins serve no other purpose than causing suffering in the victim to the ends of satisfying the sadism of the people listening to them as they occur, perpetrsting them, and sharing them afterwarss?

Even if none of the victims can never get their case prosecuted due to thenconstraintsnof jurisdiction, CCP itself is a legally and morally responsible entity to its clients, local and international law and its shareholders.

You think they want to be seen enabling your group of BonusnRoom fappers in this conduct?

Let me tell you something. If you had listened to that audio where the player and his family had lost their minds and began yelling/death threats maybe you would possibly have a different perspective.

It isn't funny, it should have been immediately stopped. Instead it was continued for that sick, disgusting, mother ******'s amusement.

And then it was brought to these forums where we were exposed and outraged by it, without our consent.

If you think it's ok to provoke people to that point than you really need to examine your own values.

My 5 cents.
That-¦s going too far. Psychical harassing is not funny.
You never know who the player you harass is. It may be a 14 year old who can get depressions because of that or someone with a real intellectual disability (e.g. trysomy 21) and harass such people is completely asocial.
Laughing about the victims is this case is really no mature behaviour. You can never know who the real human being in eve may be and what for handicaps he may have in real live.
What happens if they harass a 16 year old with borderline syndrome that way and he commits suicide?
In my opionion erotica and friends deserve some holidays in a russian gulag.
Sorry but eve is a game and behaviour like that is absolutely unacceptable in real life. Why should it be acceptable in a game, then?

Wrong, adults shouldn't provoke and badger children or the mentally handicapped.

Also what was the purpose of calling him a monkey ass? he didn't do anything to you.

You do realise that online games are rated, hence why Eve has a rating of 12 PEGI.

Another person who thinks the US is the only country in world...

But he posts info about me online anyway. Whatever. Some people just can't be reasonable, as we see everyday in this game of ours.

I still like Goons. That's no secret. I'm not going to hate a huge alliance/coalition because of a handful of guys made some trumped up charges against me and continue to troll made up things about me on an almost daily basis in the forums.

How many times have you seen a reference to "mayo," under aged pics, and other "creepy" things that never happened? You see it all the time. This "creepy" buzzword is straight out of the rightwing political playbook. Hey, say something enough and people are bound to believe you.

It's no secret that I'm a huge James 315 and Mittens fan (totally different people.) None of this silly bullshit is going to change that.

On my EVE bucket list is to make "Massively" headlines. Oops, I meant to do it for something else. Oh well. LOL

Let's talk about the CSM running. A lot of my EVE friends want me to drop out for fear of my personal safety. They are probably right. I don't really fear any of these lunatics threatening or wishing crazy ways to die upon me. But you know what, I do have concerns for my wife and son. This is a video game people. Though I gotta say, if I had to choose, it would be much better than dying of lung cancer, which is quite likely eventually. If some loon killed me at Fanfest over fake spaceship money, especially at the encouragement of all these "white knight carebear moral highground people," then I think some interesting things would happen for the better broadly speaking. Just please, I only ask CCP keep my bounty intact and pass my play money and assets over to James 315 for the improvement of highsec.

I will be dropping out of the running, but not for any of those reasons. I totally derped and forgot that my passport is long expired. There is no way I can get a scanned copy in by the deadline now. Oh well, there's always next year. Believe it or not, if we can get past all this silly nonsense, I think most people would be surprised at how I would actually represent them pretty well. I mean, I'm totally cool with a copy of my driver's license and some agreement that if I win I just sit over here in the 'States and don't get a free trip to Iceland. In light of events, it would be cool of CCP to offer to keep my name anonymous.

I'd also like CCP to openly address the bonus round and tell me what they would like me to do. CCP doesn't need to be silently monitoring (laughing?) and then make some surprise judgement.

I've said many times, just tell me what you guys want. I love CCP and this great game that has outlasted so many others- because of its very nature. Want to tell me limits for bonus rounds? That's cool. Want me to stop them altogether? Not as fun, but hey I'd respect that.

I do still plan on running a legitimate EVE bank anyway very soon! I'll keep everyone posted on that.

Let's all have a civil discourse, CCP included.

Thanks for your time.

-Ero

Wow, 200 odd pages of hyperbole, trolling and half baked philosophy over some racist loudmouth losing it on the internet.

What I want to know is if we can't scam people out of their isk the way erotica did, then what about blowing up peoples ships? Sokhar willingly participated in Erotica's game and stayed for over 2 hours with the ability to leave at any time, which he did a couple of times only to return. The guy flying the rhea in my bio didn't have that luxury because he was scrammed and webbed and outside docking range, there was no hope he was going to save his 15 bil worth of ship and goodies, so what about his feelings? He lost a lot more than Sohkar and he even had the decency to give me a "ty" in local when I popped his badly placed cyno alt. Should I be banned if he petitioned ccp with his distress over losing about $500 worth of internet space stuff to a pirate because he was stupid?

What about if I **** talked at him in local? Call him an idiot, loser etc, the usual trolling, should a petition result in a ban? What about bumping? Freighter pilots are often forced to sit for up to an hour being bumped without anyway to escape only to watch 20 cats land on him and blow him to bits, is that torture? Should bumping be bannable to avoid 'torturing' people? At the very least we can all agree it would be rather distressing. Should we ban suicide ganking because it causes a lot of distress? Just because people aren't always recorded losing it on TS doesn't make their suffering any less. Indeed there would be many an eve mail saved documenting the victims distress.

The only reason this is an issue is because Sokhar played a game he couldn't handle, lost it, then by losing it loudly, dragged his wife in. At that point it would've been 'nice' if Ero pulled the plug and gave his stuff back, purely because it was clear Sohkar wasn't coping and a third party not involved in the game became involved. But this is EVE and Ero doesn't have to be 'nice'.

Fyi, a bunch of nerd men comparing this to **** would undoubtedly be very offensive to women and comparing this to torture would be same to former pow's, torture victims, and is reason enough this joke of a thread shouldve been locked 150 pages back and the issue suppressed for being ridiculous.

Think what you will about actions in the bonus room after the scam is complete, but this sentence is distrubing. Eve is a haven for people who like this style of game play and profits because there's nowhere else to go. Stop trying to kill the game.

You can expand that to most of the EVE forum dwellers.

Let me ask you something: what is a billion isk to you?

To me, its a nicely fit T3 or two. Or maybe a blops. I've eaten those types of losses before. And honestly, so has much of the eve community.

When I lost that much isk, I didn't cry, or yell, bang a desk, or threaten someones mother in impotent rage. To me, someone that demonstrates these symptoms has a problem. Maybe even a hardcore addiction as you say, idk.

The point is, such a person is not well adjusted, and you can't base policy for a community of hundreds of thousands based on the response of the mentally unstable fringe. Just my 2 isk.

And so? At first do not forget that there is a difference between scam and psychological harassment.
Taking advantage of greed, stupidity, ignorance, and so on is a thing.
Pushing someone to depression, self-disgust, perharps suicide is another.
Yes it is difficult to judge and the GMs will have hardtime. But the EULA should give them the possibilty to do something.
Before someone die and its family attack CCP in justice...

Making value judgments on ISK is besides the point. The issue is that he was humiliated and I think... wasn't so much looking for his ISK back but his pride.

If true, this crosses way over the line. CCP, this is okay with you? Really?

False.

Nobody there answered what is required of the participant to win the Bonus Room.

And you only named one "contestant" who has won, Vicious Rage.

I take notes :) A lot of notes.

So, since you claim to know, as you claim to have explained it in the comm (though you did infact not):

What is required of the participant to win the Bonus Room?

False. It was not. You're the dopey guy from the comm, right?

So tell us then, what is required of the participant to win the Bonus Room?

Disclaimer: As my previous posts, this is not a derail.
I will however take my tongue out of my cheeck where it has been lodged for the past few days.

This girl posted some bad things about EVE online and it's playerbase.
CCP hires her.
Everyone grabs a pitchfork and tries to burn her at the stake.
CCP defends her and steps in hard on everyone commenting on the topic.

A guy drunkenly tells someone to kill himself at fanfest.
Everyone grabs a pitchfork and tries to burn him at the stake.
He becomes the most powerfull dude in the universe and is more popular asked by the media than actual game devs.

This other dude totally humiliates a fellow player and calls him retarted.
Nobody moves.
Suddenly I see this guy commentating an official EVE tournament.

A guy gets shouted at by a racist for asking said racist to sing a song.
Nobody moves.
A CSM member a month later reposts said recording and adds to it: THIS IS TORTURE
Everyone grabs a pitchfork and tries to burn him at the stake.

That's what has been happening over the years. There are many more examples. Please stop with the double/tripple standards. Please stop with your faux-offended reactions, please just enjoy our game.
Don't try to fix what isn't broken and get some perspective.

D. OUT (for now)

Wow theres a lot of posts in this thread. I wanna join in.

I'll try and take a step back from all the senationalist drama, and lay it out how I see it.

Erotica 1 does what she always does - offers to double (or quadruple) the isk people send her.
Sokhar wants in on the deal, sends isk.
Erotica asks him to read articles, sing songs, etc in order to win
Sokhar plays along with it, somewhat reluctantly, for an hour or two
Eventually he gets sick of it, rants and rages
The end.

How people can call that bullying, let alone "torture", is beyond me. Personally, I think Ripard Teg is a rather distasteful individual, last year he compared ganking mining ships to the-word-for-forced-non-consensual-sex-thats-censored-here, something I found incredibly offensive, as it trivialised an extremely horrific issue. Now he's at it again, describing the events I laid out above as abuse and "torture".

He's not just a hacky sensationalist writer on the level of any garbage tabloid, he's a very odious little twerp, as comparing such extreme real life suffering to trivial video-game nonsense is deeply offensive and trivialises real human tragedy in order to get page hits for his blog, or to push his agenda (such as skuppering a potential CSM candidates chances with smear campaigns, etc).

Sokhar for his vile racial slurs and death threats, and Ripard Teg for the reasons above are the truly repulsive creatures in this whole ordeal. Oh, and also the astonishingly hypocritical people in this thread who are condoning, encouraging, or otherwise wishing real life violence and suffering on Erotica1 or anyone else.

Can anyone tell me what the problem is? Why are people so outraged and angry?

Erotica offered to quadruple his space-game monies if he gave her it all
Sokhar wanted to take the deal, gave her all his space-game monies
Erotica asked him to read articles and sing songs to get the payout
Sokhar played along for a while, then got sick and raged

To me, thats an utterly trivial string of events - it's nonsense, a wasted couple of hours, and a setback in a video game.

Why on gods green earth are people acting like Erotica bullied him, tortured him, broke in-game rules, broke real life laws, or anything else.

Please, I really would like an explanation - and not just a regurgitation of the sensationalist claptrap Ripard Teg spewed on his blog for page hits / to demonise a competing csm candidate.

I'll wait

The more awareness the community at large has of what Erotica1 and his associates have been up to, the better.

Disregarding for a second what happened to the victims, we are all actually victims of what this small group has been up to.

Because they have taken their activities to sucha ridiculous and heinous degree, that it actually threatens the privilege uptil now of other players having someone sing for their ship for example.

These guys made them 10-20!

There is a limit to what any community can tolerate. Even /b/ and SA have their limits.

Dopeys getting mad.

Dont smash your desk, now.

Well that settles it: Salvos is a psychopath.

He's trolling you and he's succeeding. Check the little yellow triangle next to his name and then click "hide posts". Your sanity will thank you for it.

And here you are posting in this thread again. Can you tell us why you do this?

How exactly is his blog post damning? It's not like people have known for a long while Erotica is a troll and a scammer in his own unique right. It's nothing astonishing, nothing revealing. It's just someone crying foul about a person being taken for a ride and made to do stupid things on voice comms for greed. That's it.

Let's step back from the rants and pitchforks for a moment to actually break down this unusual phenomenon in New Eden called scamming. Firstly, Erotica's amounts are paltry in comparison to some of the biggest heists that have made Eve infamous. Part of the unique challenges and allure of Eve is a universe of harsh reality. A universe of truly open possibility.

The game from the very beginning of the first introduction paints a bleak picture of humanity and it's struggle through the four races and how through sheer force of will began to climb back from the bleakness of utter ruin to triumph over Space itself. YOU as a player willfully enter this universe from the very beginning. No one forces you to log in nor interact with others.

Yet the itch grabs people. They realize isk is power. Isk means a bigger ship, a better character, opportunity, and is the life blood of a freely driven economy. Even CCP's touted "Greed Is Good" slogan is plastered and seared into our minds that to go for it "all" in the name of power is not only encouraged, it is expected.

This is the pressures an ignorant newcomer faces. They like the rest of us must learn the pains of treachery in a Universe as cold as space itself. No one "made" this person log into Erotica's comms. No one "made" this person do the things he did. There was no gun held to his head. Nothing.

He was instead driven by Greed. That itch we all feel. That itch that drove me to empty an entire Alliance's SRP fund and liquid isk and assets in a blink of an eye. It's the same itch you feel when your victim is pointed and smoldering as you demand a ransom. It's the same itch a Carebear feels when he grinds. And it's the same itch people have given into thousands of times over to their utter ruin.

Erotica did not berate this person. By all accounts he was "trolled softly" and it was the clamness in Erotica's voice that led to the most wincing reactions from this person. he gave it all away and was upset. The fact someone entices you to sing a song or do stupid things not only means this person is willing to personally degrade themselves for money, they are willing to walk with little shame as long as the ends justify the means.

The same can be said for Erotica. He simply feeds on that basic of hunger. That drive and lust for power that every player wants. And it is the lesson we ALL have learned and one this player sadly as well had to be taught. Do I like Erotica's form of trolling? Not really. I much prefer the teaching hand of Tank CEO and his brunt yet truthful lessons to a player mining in Low Sec.

But that is of course opinion. Can CCP monitor comms? No. Should they? No. Should Erotica be banned? No. Is this a sore issue that will pit the hunter against the hunted until the servers go black? Yes. No I'm not being cold. I'm being realistic. We've all been scammed. I've been scammed. It's just something we all need to accept and it makes us stronger players.

Well those of us who understand this is after all just a video game.

Ripard Teg where have you run off to?

You come into this thread specifically to poke at the fire a few times and then run away when your presence is requested on a TS3 server with Erotica 1 and Sohkar Live on twich.

I'm unsure as to exactly what kinda of mongering low life CSM you really are for posting such a wonderful piece of negative journalism. http://evenews24.com/2014/03/25/jesters-trek-the-bonus-round/

If this is what we can expect from current CSM's trying to actively damage the eve community then I honestly propose that CSM Ripard Teg be removed from his position BEFORE the upcoming CSM POLLS.

In my opinion Ripard Teg has overstepped his position of power in an attempt to disrupt and or influence the eve community for his own agenda.

Ripard Teg calls for Bans on Erotica 1 and any escrow agents involved.

Then in response to overuse of his power he should walk away from CSM in shame either by choice of resignation or by forceful removal. God wills it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-JfK-wwFU